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SAD BOYS METS CLUB
Episode 011: Rock Bottom Mets Optimism
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Rock bottom is a strange place to find optimism, but that’s exactly where our Mets brains go after a brutal stretch. Back at our headquarters, we talk through why this New York Mets season feels so off: the vibes, the roster holes, and the constant sense that we’re watching a version of the team that’s somehow thinner than last year. We also ask the question everyone circles when things get ugly: is Carlos Mendoza the real issue, or just the easiest person to blame when bigger problems are baked in?
From there we hit the emotional core of being a Mets fan right now. We revisit the recent roller coaster of expectations, how a “written off” team can play loose, and why the weight of supposed contention can crush a clubhouse. Then we get specific with the players we can’t stop thinking about: life after Pete Alonso, the love for Jeff McNeil, the frustration at second base, and the flicker of hope when Mark Vientos starts squaring balls up again.
Of course we go full trade deadline mode too. We break down the wild MLB trade rumors floating around, from Tarik Skubal to Bryce Harper to the truly unhinged Fernando Tatis Jr chatter, and what a realistic Mets front office might actually do. We zoom out to the broader league with rookie of the year chaos and awards buzz, detour into Dodgers drama and the Dalton Rushing incidents, and then somehow end up talking movies, Ghost in the Shell, Blade Runner, and why classic cyberpunk still hits.
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Back Home, Still Believing
SPEAKER_02Hey everybody, it's sadboys Mets Club. Welcome back. I am Giovanni Blanco.
SPEAKER_00I'm Franklin Blanco.
SPEAKER_02And we are here after a few weeks of uh different zooms and uh uh podcasts from the road. We're finally back at our headquarters and uh it feels good to be back. Uh but uh sadly that might be the only thing we're feeling good about.
SPEAKER_05It's rough. It is rough. Um yeah, I mean actually no. I don't know why I'm saying that. It is positive. It is positive. I'm feeling positive because we're on the FN up. We're on the FN up.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, you know. Once you hit rock bottom, I think there's a famous Oscar Wilde quote uh that uh you get the best view of the stars from the from the gutter.
SPEAKER_05Well that just feels like rubbing salt in the wound. It's like yeah, we're way down here. They're doing so good up there.
SPEAKER_02No, I mean, but it's just like there's only there's only one way right now.
SPEAKER_05When it's up, it just uh I mean it can get worse, but it really can't get worse because I I can think of a few ways it could get worse, but like theoretically it would be unprecedented for it to get
Losing Alonso, Missing McNeil
SPEAKER_05worse.
SPEAKER_02In case you're wondering, and this is the first time you might have been stumbling on this, we are talking about the Mets, the Metropolitans, the New York Mets, the I love calling them the Metropolitans because the only person who does that is Pete Alonzo.
SPEAKER_05His whole career. It's the I love being with the Metropolitans, the New York Metropolitans.
SPEAKER_02I could I could tell we hear him talk Spanish right now. How's Pete doing?
SPEAKER_05Pete is doing better. He started off worse than the entire Mets team. But that's fair. He's like he had to get warmed up to the new place. I did see there was something really funny where people were talking about how like Pete was calling out the Mets, but really all he said was that they just kind of like left him hanging. Yeah, like ghosted him over free, which is like we we already, if you know anything about the Mets and how that offseason went, we like we all knew that. Um but I think he's starting to get into it, I think he's starting to hit a couple more home runs. Unfortunately, I know I started the year being very optimistic about the Orioles as a team. That was all contingent on their pitching working out, and their pitching has been terrible. Like really, really bad. So I don't think Pete is gonna make it very far. Yeah. Uh, which kind of stinks, but also I think it's it it might help take the pressure off. Yeah, it's like I I think I think Pete's doing fine. I feel a little bad that he's on that team, but I think he's better off than on the Mets. Just barely.
SPEAKER_02Um I I I disagree. I feel like I feel like a good chunk of our problems have to do with the hole that was left when he when he was trading.
SPEAKER_05I mean, yeah, but if we're going there, I mean we have to go friend in them Jeff McNeil. Jeff McNeil Jeff McNeil. I'm still mad about that because nobody talks about Jeff McNeil, but I love Jeff McNeil.
SPEAKER_02And how is how is McNeil doing now?
SPEAKER_05He's doing good. He he played great against us. Uh his motivation. Like I I've said before, I feel like he's a perfect A. Like he just kind of fits that vibe. Yeah. I feel like everywhere our guys got traded to makes sense. Except for like Edwin Diaz, but we don't talk about him anymore. We don't talk about him. He's the only person I'm mad at, but there's karma.
SPEAKER_02I know karma doesn't work that way. But there will be no trumpets at Dodger Stadium this year.
SPEAKER_05Um but like I'm still so mad because if we're being realistic, I hate Marcus Semyon. Hate's a strong word, but I hate that we've been playing Marcus Semyon this whole year.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05And I feel like it's a good thing.
SPEAKER_02I hate Marcus Semion.
SPEAKER_05We got him for his defense, and he's not been doing that good defensively. Like, I would have much rather had Brandon Nimo than Marcus Semyon. But even then, like, I would have rather played any number of guys in the second base position. Before Mauricio got injured, I've been I've been wanting Mauricio to play second because like that's I feel like that's a perfect place for him to be. You have Boba Chet? Yeah, we have Bobochette. Um Yeah, the the best part about this team is that we're kind of just worse off than last year because all the guys we got are like not on the team except for MJ Melendez. My new goat. I take back everything I said. Actually, I don't, because every time I hate on a guy, they do really good. Yeah. So MJ Melendez, you stink. Don't you dare hit a home run today.
SPEAKER_01I believe White Castle was calling. They need a server.
SPEAKER_05Um that's funny too, because he was on the Royals. That's right.
SPEAKER_00It's all connected.
SPEAKER_02It's all connected. I'll just back to it. Big question that's been on everybody's minds.
Is Mendoza The Scapegoat
SPEAKER_02Mendoza. I mean it's a c it's the clash. I think Do you know what I mean what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_05What are you saying? Oh, should I stay or should I go? It's like he needs to go, right? Well, the the interesting thing is they were like the manager, and I think it was David Stearns, was like, yeah, no, I have full confidence in Carlos Mendoza. So I think it's like he is staying unless we go on another bad losing streak, which is crazy that he's staying, because it's like a lot of times you'll fire a manager as like a scapegoat. Like, there are other issues, but you could point to the manager and be like, it will fire him. But like this time, he's actually not a great manager. Like, there are so many instances of him doing the wrong thing.
SPEAKER_02I feel like also, too, that right now it's easy to see where he also messed up in the past. So not getting there the last couple of years.
SPEAKER_05I feel like there might be some bias that he got there the first year.
SPEAKER_02And like that's I feel like how do we blow it at the end?
SPEAKER_05It was kind of it was it's the kind of thing where I think it got more blown out of proportion that we made it to the point where it was.
SPEAKER_02This is his third year, right? This is his third year. Yeah, I believe his first year was 2024. So the first year was the year that we it looked like we had no chance, and that's we had the miracle run. Very end we almost got there. So that was the thing, that was the spirit, that was the thing that, like, okay, you know what? We we're fighting, we're fighters, we we have this in us, and of course that we got that far was a miracle, right? But then last year it was really kind of like It's the opposite.
SPEAKER_05It was the opposite, it was like basically almost given to us, and we just I mean, you've you've probably seen the stat like a couple of days ago. It was like at this point last year, the Mets had the exact inverse record and were leading the league. Like it was it's we and we lost. We lost. I mean, this is exact correlation to I was looking at this before. There was a stretch of years, like 2008, 2009, 2010, maybe not exactly, but like where the exact set of circumstances happened. Like what the first year we lost in the postseason in like the NLCS, and then the next year, super high expectations that just kind of collapsed. Mm-hmm. Right before. And then the third year we switched things up and like it just got worse.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, I think to say switch things up is like twinning it mildly. I mean, this has been a complete shake-up.
SPEAKER_05Well, but actually, we st we basically have the same team. Without without the three guys that were talking, because like I feel like a shakeup makes it sound like we like added a bunch of new things, but all of our new things are.
SPEAKER_02And yeah. From last year? No. No, because it's like I mean, not okay, no, okay, not counting the stuff that happened mid-til last year, about McLean coming in and McLean for me is new.
SPEAKER_05From from the start, it's McLean is new. I mean, Koda Sangha exactly the same situation. Start off great. Peterson is um Peterson, I think Peterson started off better last year. Really? In my in my head, I remember starting off the year being like okay with Peterson, and at this point this year I am not okay with Peterson.
SPEAKER_02You know, we got Devin, we got like I feel like all our sort of middle really. I can see that.
SPEAKER_05Bullpen is brand new. I just feel like most of the guys we got in the offseason aren't in. Yes, yes. We had Clay Holmes was like our most consistent pitcher last year.
SPEAKER_02Man, there's wrong people on slipping up. Um but then but then then you know, all these players that we have now, like uh uh, uh the two or three guys that are in the Yeah, that's that's what I mean.
SPEAKER_05I feel like the biggest guys we got aren't playing, yeah, which makes it feel like we got a couple of new guys, but our team is basically like the B team of last year.
How Expectations Crush A Season
SPEAKER_02Um Yeah, I mean it, you know, uh again I want to lean back into what you were saying before, like the it's a positive thing that because we're kind of in a place where we can only look up, we can only say, okay, well, at least we don't have certain expectations anymore, and now we can move forward. And I think that when you don't have expectations, you actually invite more opportunity in. Because that's a that's that's a big shadow to kind of like walk into.
SPEAKER_05I mean, that was I think that was literally uh 2024 Mets. I think that was the exact scenario where at a certain point your team is written off. Like at the all-star break, if you have a losing team, you're probably not going anywhere. Yeah, yeah. And so then that opens it up to be like, oh, we're playing the Mets. That's fine. And then then we win.
SPEAKER_02And then we would like that's start start programming their their uh their lineups according to that, like, oh well, you know, don't don't uh don't waste the energies of these these certain people because we're playing the Mets so we can beat them and then I mean that's a terrible way to play the game too, because that's literally how Team USA lost the WBC. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05They didn't play Mason Miller their whole like a postseason part of it. Yeah. Like that was crazy. And they put Paul Skines against us. Yeah. Which is like actually, to be fair, I would rather if I was them, I would have put Nolan McLean in the final like they did, but I don't think that was their intention of like, we have faith in him, he'll be our final. Like, I think they really that's the kind of playing that I think loses you things, which is kind of exactly where I want us to be in the fact that people will be doing that against us. That's
Vientos Sparks A Small Turnaround
SPEAKER_05where we want to be. And we're we're winning a little. We've won three of the last four. Three of the last four. And three.
SPEAKER_02Vientos almost hit four of the three of the last twenty.
SPEAKER_05Vientos almost had back-to-back double hull home run games. Did you see the recap of like the balls that he almost hit his body? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I saw two two two things that were came picking. And my favorite one, there was like a good reaction of him on one of them.
SPEAKER_05It was just like Well, it's it's so it must be so frustrating because it was like it's right there in literally any other park. Because he hit it to the same spot twice, and in any other park, even in that park, if it's not windy, like that specific day, the wind was blowing strong inwards. And that's with like the extra 10 feet of field that Corps Park had. Like, it's it's like specifically anywhere else, he would have hit like an identical home run. But it's that's rushed. But he already he already had a two-home run game like the day before.
SPEAKER_00That was good, that was good.
SPEAKER_02So Vianto's uh proving that he's not as expendable as you might have thought uh early on, you know, we might have thought him so.
SPEAKER_05I still kind of I I think I told I told you this earlier, but I still there's a part of my brain that thinks we should trade him because I feel bad for him. Because his his peaks have been when we've been playing West Coast teams. Like when we go to the West Coast, he has these insane, and like it feels like the world is trying to say like he would be such a good player if it was on like even like the Angels or like the Padres.
SPEAKER_02Or the F. He'd be the all-star A's.
SPEAKER_05If he was the A's, which is kind of crazy because they have already a good team, but like if he was on the A's, every single hit he takes is gonna be a home run. That's like a it's a minor league ballpark.
SPEAKER_02But but yeah, but that's uh so you are you saying uh this is what I don't quite get because it's like is it uh are you saying that he's good against West Coast teams or he's just good in West Coast?
SPEAKER_05I think he's just good when he's in the West Coast, because like it's just it's not like a real concrete thing, it's just the vibes of it, like when we were doing so terrible, and then he just had that stretch of great gameplay. It was because we were going on like a nine-game West Coast trip, and then we go back to the angels, and he's like hitting two on like I it's the part of me that I always feel I always feel this way about our rookies, to where it's like if they're not being played to their full potential, I feel bad, and as much as I want to keep them, I there's a part of me that's always like, oh, but if we traded them, they could be so much more. But I really like having Vientos, so like all that said, I don't want to trade him ever, like for at least the next like three years.
SPEAKER_02I mean he was he was he's an excellent bench guy, if if that was you know, if we had better players on the team.
SPEAKER_05You know, like he's my worry though is that the the one thing is I worry that if he was a bench player, I don't know if he's as warm, he wouldn't be as like fired. I don't know if his like streakiness is correlated to him playing or not. Yeah. And that's what would worry me, because like I think the only reason he's getting these big chances is because he's like he's been getting everyday playing time. Like uh He's just such a streaky player, and I feel like there must be something to it. Like, I I think I there must be some key to unlock there. Uh I don't know what it is, but right now he's he's on his good half, his good side, so that's like that's exciting.
Deadline Dreams From Skubal To Harper
SPEAKER_02Um we're talking about these possible trades, Gentos uh being sort of a uh a fantasy trade.
SPEAKER_03Every guy.
SPEAKER_02Every guy. Um looking at the team now, looking at our beloved Mets, and seeing everyone that we have, knowing people that are on the Idrid list. There's been talk, weird, weird talk about certain players. Uh I mean, I think Soler might have been one of the ones that I just think.
SPEAKER_05Let's see, that's the interesting one. I never heard Solaire, but I would love Solar. Solar. I can give you the the three trades that I've seen floated around in like the past.
SPEAKER_02Uh like in the last week is.
SPEAKER_05This is the most obvious one because this has been the talk. But the reason I saw it in this last week is like uh because he got injured, the talks of how much value they're gonna get from him uh has been interesting and he's always been an option for us, which is Scoobyl. This is the least likely. I'm starting least likely because he's injured now. I think he's gonna sell for worse. Like, I think the Tigers were genuinely planning at the trade deadline. If they're a winning team, they go all the way. If they go all the way, then they would keep him. Like, if if they're a great team, they keep him. If they're not, they trade him at the trade deadline. But now that he's injured, I don't know what that plan is. I think that there's still a world for Scoobyl. But these are the two ones I've legitimately seen floated around, and they're still ridiculous. Cause realistically, none of these are gonna happen. We're gonna get like some other guy. Like some some like the bottom of the barrel. Exactly, like some a a bounce back candidate. That's what we're gonna get. But these are the ridiculous ones that I've seen. Fernando Tatis and Bryce Harper. What? Yep. And the the Bryce Harper one was crazy for me because that came from a guy, John Heyman, who's like always, like you always hear his his name in terms of.
SPEAKER_02I remember hearing it before the season began. Like the there was like a there was like a possible uh you know, I mean i it's like like who who was the guy that we just got from the ace?
SPEAKER_05Uh Ibanz. It's like Andy Andy Ibanz, something like that.
SPEAKER_02I mean, he played Sunday, right, or something.
SPEAKER_05He played Sunday and his roster photo still had an ace hat on. Like, I I'm convinced we only picked him up because we were out on the west coast and it was like the most convenient thing.
SPEAKER_02I don't even know if we picked him up on purpose. He just like happened to get on the bus by the street.
SPEAKER_05And we were like, hey, we have an open spot in the lineup for the player.
SPEAKER_02Mendoza's such a bad, bad coach, bad manager that he's just like, hey you, you play first. You play this base, whatever. Um but uh but apparently I don't know how he did in the in in yesterday's game before Monday's game. Sorry, Sunday's game.
SPEAKER_05I think he might have been like just okay.
SPEAKER_02Like I don't remember anything uh, so that was Monday's game, that's what I think.
SPEAKER_05It must have been Monday's.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm wondering if that like that was such a weird to see that happen. I was just like, oh my god, why are we scraping? Why are we scraping?
SPEAKER_05We're sc we're scraping because it's like a weird place to be because we have injured guys, so it's scary to make a big trade, but at the same time, we're not gonna get anywhere if we're just scraping.
SPEAKER_02It's I mean, I just feel like not only that, but I feel like a third of the team can just get the hell on out. It's like it's like what's Taukman doing?
SPEAKER_00I wanna know if he's healthy. Talkman is is uh vacuuming at the at the front office.
SPEAKER_05Exactly. Let's let's get him on the field. I'm sure he's healthier now. What the hell is Mike to like where is it? I think you know what it I he might have injured his hamstring.
SPEAKER_00Carmen San Diego Talkman.
SPEAKER_05Dude, I I wanna see him play. If we're scraping the bottom of the barrel, get some of these guys out here.
SPEAKER_02Let's see the stash and axe.
SPEAKER_05I love I love that he was so like he was so bottom heavy. Like his face. It's like he he was just built so fun. I wanna see him play. But uh it's it's interesting. I think both of the two that I said are interesting, but for different reasons. Though Harper's warmed up a bit more, so that's like I think there would be a hard himself is warmed up a little bit more. Harper's warming up a bit more. Not not like people are warming up to trades. Like Harper himself started off the year not too great. Oh, but he's getting that.
SPEAKER_02The good thing is he always really care. He always does that. I mean, it also it just I mean, Harper would just kind of uh you know, I mean, we're we're totally missing first baseman, star power, first baseball star power, but but we're missing like a veteran strong voice. Like I feel like the old folks that have come in have not been like strong enough.
SPEAKER_05I think the issue is like Nimmo might have been our like veteran voice.
SPEAKER_02Nimmo's still kind of like too boyish.
SPEAKER_05Like he's still Nimmo is like a couple years off from retiring.
SPEAKER_02Nimmo's like Yeah, that's that's different than Harper, who's been like an all-star his entire life.
SPEAKER_05You know what's really fun? I s I watch a lot of videos in like my spare time that are like these stats videos where they'll be doing like a challenge and it's like a list of a hundred players and it's like the most home runs since the year two thousand. Yeah. And it's like you're trying to get whatever. I've found that Manny Machado and Bryce Harper, who to me feel like the exact same vibe of baseball, yeah, they have literally the same career stats. I believe cumulative stats, which is just such a funny thing to me.
SPEAKER_02Also, not Not only that, but it's also a a sign of I don't mean to get political, but of the sort of like attention. You know what I mean? Because Bryce Harper's always been an all-star. Manny Machado's always just been kind of like an all-star utility, not utility, but like an all-star kind of like grunt.
SPEAKER_05I've always felt bad for Manny Machado.
SPEAKER_00I've loved that dude since he entered baseball.
SPEAKER_05The people hate Manny Machado. You are an outlier. And I love Manny Machado too.
SPEAKER_02He was like, I mean, I like I've told you before, the last time I played fantasy baseball, he was on my team. The last year was it was his first year playing. And I just loved, I mean, I loved him then, and I just think that he's uh he's really underrated as far as being like one, he doesn't get injured, but I mean like very little. He's constantly playing and he's he's always just consistent. I mean he's not like putting up crazy numbers.
SPEAKER_05He's got great defense though. I know he's gotta be like the he's I actually I would say second best third baseman defensively, only because Michael Garcia exists, but like he's really good defensively. Yeah, and he's like a hundred years old. He's old and he's playing good defense.
SPEAKER_02It was great to see him at the WBC.
SPEAKER_05I mean it's like I feel so bad about that. He's not gonna play again. I mean he's gonna be three years. It'll be three years. He might coach. He's I I think he's gonna be on the coaching because like there's no definitely coach. He'll be on the coach. There's there's no world. I mean, I do I do believe, I reckon Albert Pools will probably still be the man.
SPEAKER_02But it was a couple guys on that Venezuelan team that were like a hundred years old. Manny Machado can like retire and still play WBC in a couple years.
SPEAKER_05But my uh my one take is that like I don't think there's gonna be space for him because like I think Venezuelan team has to struggle a bit more. Like the DR team, you pick like you randomly pick any all-star in baseball, there's a high chance it's gonna be a Dominican.
SPEAKER_02I'm looking at the at the defensive alone. Defensively, he is. You know, in three years from now, he's still probably gonna be the best Dominican third baseman.
SPEAKER_00I don't think he's the best Dominican third baseman who's the best Dominican third baseman.
SPEAKER_05I don't even think it's close. I think I think for something like the WBC, I would rather take defense.
SPEAKER_02Defense.
SPEAKER_05Defense, I think he is the best, but I still feel like who? Jose Ramirez. Oh yeah. Because like I think I think for the WBC, I always take Manny Machado. I think I think Manny Machado will always be my pick in like a thing like that. But in terms of the like longevity of a season, Jose Ramirez is the only person I know who has single-handedly carried a team on his back multiple years in a row to the play. Like last year, they were like 13 games out of the postseason, and they went on like a 15-game winning streak. He's like he's keeping that team alive. And also I love he's like he's kind of like the perfect statue out front kind of player because he's I I mean like I love that. He's been there for like what like eight years, and he took like a contract to stay there the rest of his career for less money than he could have gotten because he was just like, I don't need that much, I like it here.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's that that that makes him even like bond even more with the with the city.
SPEAKER_05But I I do think in a WBC thing, I definitely take Maiden Chava because I think he's that veteran, he's got the defense. I mean, hey, I've got him on my fantasy team. Uh for a steal, I might add, because I got him from a Dodgers fan. Like father, like son. He hasn't been the greatest, but that's only because I have three third basemen, and the other two are just better than him, unfortunately. Except for Junior Camonero has so many errors. In the first week of baseball, he had like nine errors. But there was three. No, it's so bad. It's genuinely, and for some reason, me being an idiot, I made it minus one point for every error, and that really stacks up. Uh, and then the other third baseman I have is Murakami, who's like top player in the league right now, but I love him too. I love him so much. Speaking of Murakami, yeah.
Rookies, WBC, And Baseball Vibes
SPEAKER_05Uh this is a little off topic for us because Murakami. Murakami. Uh damn kamies. Uh uh speaking like this is off topic because we are a Metch channel, but I I don't know how much you know. This is like the craziest awards race kind of season so far because first of all, the rookies the all-stars are not putting the all-stars are like minorly playing like but the rookie season, this is the most interesting part too. Like, first first day of the season, all of the rookies went off. Like it was insane. But right now, if you look at like rookie of the year rankings, it's none of the guys that went off on the first day. And so that's even more crazy, just how many insanely good rookies there are this year. Like, uh, I will say, like, there are guys who are competing for MVPs and like Cy Young's, because there's like Noel McLean, who I've been seeing, he's kind of top in the charts in terms of Cy Young for the NL, and Kevin McGonagall is insanely good as well. But then there's like Sal Stewart. The only reason that people are saying the only reason people are saying that Noah McLean wouldn't ri win rookie of the year is because Sal Stewart is putting together the best offensive rookie year ever. Like, he's just he's just some guy. He's the Reds first baseman. He's just some guy, and he's like first baseman. Yeah, we should we should take Sal Stewart.
SPEAKER_00He's gonna be in the I mean Sal Stewart sounds like he just belongs in New York. I mean yeah, you should see his mustache, right? This is the stash world. Genuinely mustache alone should get you in.
SPEAKER_02Sal Stewart playing first base.
SPEAKER_05Sal Stewart. I I think Stewart's a good name. Uh let me get let me get a mustache one. I can't find a musta Oh there's there's a little mustache. That doesn't look super this is this is the one. This is the one. Look at this guy. Look at this eyes. Sal Stewart.
SPEAKER_01Oh god, his eyebrows are bigger.
SPEAKER_02It's like he's gonna blink and his eyebrows are gonna turn into a butterfly.
SPEAKER_05Oh, Murakami is on the record to set uh rookie, rookie home run record. Beat out Pete Alonzo.
SPEAKER_02Wow. This is uh it's a it's it's a you know what? It's kind of like a clean slate year. You know, I feel like it's uh you know, if you follow astrology, it's a year of the fire horse. It's a year of new beginnings, and and uh and I feel like it's kind of affecting baseball. You know, we're the so-called uh contenders are not as contending, and we're getting surprises left and right. More more from players, individual players than from teams, per se.
SPEAKER_05But oh I will say the braves have been a big surprise for me, because I knew they would be good, but I think right now they're like leading.
SPEAKER_02I was a little thought, but like that's yeah, it's whatever because to me it's always been like for me, um the Mets always look at the Phillies as like the main rival.
SPEAKER_05For me, always the Braves have been like No, because that's because you're you're an older generation fan because it's Hey who you call an older? Hey, who you Alan Older But uh because that's like that's pre 2000. Like I think it was Mets Braves and post-2000, like was it Chase Utley who did that terrible slide? It's like that's the era of Phillies, Mets rivalry is the first time.
SPEAKER_02I mean, but that wasn't that long ago. That was maybe like ten years ago.
SPEAKER_05But like still it's in that era of like the the 2000s have been more uh I mean hey, the Phillies won the World Series when Shea Stadium got taken out. That that feels like negative vibes. That feels that feels bad vibes.
SPEAKER_02That's some straight up uh hairy stuff right there. It's a sign of the times.
The Simple Wish For Next Week
SPEAKER_02I think that uh it would be a good time for say to stay to ask for you to give me any sort of wishes for the week. I mean, outside of just winning more than losing.
SPEAKER_05One win. Just one next week.
SPEAKER_02Just one win. So wait, so today is uh this will this will go out Thursday afternoon. Um they played tonight.
SPEAKER_05Who they play tonight?
SPEAKER_02Rockies.
SPEAKER_05Rockies tonight, Rockies tomorrow. Um I don't know where we go after that. We might be coming back, honestly.
SPEAKER_02Uh well maybe, you know, looks like we'll make might have like six games this week. Um I I I concur with Franklin. Just uh it's gotta be more than one game. It's gotta be at least three. It can't be less. So if we have six games, it's gotta be at least three. You gotta at least show like you're a 500 team right now. Right? I mean 500 isn't asking for much. It's like win and lose.
SPEAKER_05It's asking for much from us. No, I'm just saying we need to win nine games and lose none to get to 500.
SPEAKER_02I'm not saying 500.
SPEAKER_05500 for the week.
SPEAKER_02For the week.
SPEAKER_05Um we are playing the D-backs, so it's it's gonna be two games Rockies, two games D-Backs.
SPEAKER_00I mean, we have a chance.
SPEAKER_05We've got a chance.
SPEAKER_02We definitely have a chance. You don't know if they're gonna start getting a little horrible streak themselves, you know?
SPEAKER_05I hope so. I don't actually roll on them. I like the snakes, but like I would rather the Mets win. Uh, it's to be fun to be fair though, it's like Side Side Tangent, one of my favorite uh one of my new favorite players is a D-back. Uh his name is Ildemaro Vargas. And he is so like unknown because he's like their backup second baseman, which is crazy because they have like probably the second best second baseman, third best. I don't believe Jazz Chisholm is good, but like people will say. But they have uh they have Katel Martin. He is English. I he they're literally making him pay fines when he wants to do ABS challenges because he's so bad at them. He is that bad at making the challenges because he gets like he's as emotionally invested as the pitchers are. That's that's the issue. That's why pitchers don't really challenge, because like if you throw a pitch, you're gonna want it to be like a strike. You're gonna be like, that is a strike 100%. That's how Jazz Chisholm plays the game. It's he's such he said it would be a 50-50 player this year. It's it's rough. But uh Catel Marte, they have Catel Marte. And like I love him, but other than I like Oh wait, that's not even where I was going. It's because of Ildemaro Vargas. He's their backup second baseman, and he's been playing out of his mind. Good. And he's just some guy. He's just some guy, like, from their minor league team that's they brought up to their bench. Is he is he Dominican? He might be, he very well might be.
SPEAKER_02Well, we've we've expressed the wish for the week.
Dodgers Drama And Dalton Rushing
SPEAKER_02It's a simple one that we win. At least half the games that we play will have to add up when we get back to that side. Sometimes we're as we were figuring out if there's if uh this this interesting second baseman from Venezuela. No. Why is he from Venezuela? Venezuela. Yeah, had to be. Um he is not Dominican, but it would be a good time for us to almost almost.
SPEAKER_05The Venezuelans are I've realized this more. The Venezuelans are just as good.
SPEAKER_02Well not not as good, but like No, I think they are as good. The thing is it's just that. They're just less of an abundance.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, because it's like Jackson Churio, Chu! Churio! That was my favorite thing. He kept he kept on adding more vowels. He was like, um, but and then they have like Ronald Acunya Jr., they have Michael Garcia, Salvador Perez, my opposition. I don't like Salvi. Because I found I found out he was on the 2015 Royals team because he's that old.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna say, but that's the guy that was on the team that I thought, this guy's like a hundred years old. I mean he looked he looked like uh like the Venezuelan version of Lurch in the Addams family.
SPEAKER_05I mean, like, I was I was predispositioned to like him because he's kind of the exemplary, like he he's the example of what I want from a catcher, because he's big, he he's a big guy, and I think that should be a requirement. I've realized the more the skinnier the catcher is qualities. The skinnier a catcher is, the kind of more I hate them. Um though I guess that's not fully true because Dalton Rushing is a little on the heavier side, and I hate his guts. Have you seen any of the Dalton Rushing stuff?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_05He's he went on a tear. Who with a whoop team? He's for the Dodgers, he's their backup catcher. Um the issue was that the Dodgers kind of never really like with the Yankees dynasty, you could be like, yeah, they're villains. But right now the Dodgers are a dynasty where it's like, yeah, they're villains, but like a lot of them are kind of just nice guys.
SPEAKER_02Um Yeah, I mean I think it has to do with sort of like the maybe it's the California thing, maybe it's uh Dave Roberts' heart to decide.
SPEAKER_05I hate Dave Roberts. No, I hate him. Oh really? Wow. He's my least favorite part of that team, and I hate at least more like I hate at least two of their players with a passion. Dave Roberts is my least favorite, but you hate him more than Freeman. Freddie Freeman is very low down because like Freddie Freeman, there's tangible evidence for me to not hate him. The other guys that I hate, I just like Wait a minute, wait a minute.
SPEAKER_02This is a change. This this is a change. What's the tangible evidence now?
SPEAKER_05No, it's like, okay, Freddie Freeman, I will always hate because he just has bad vibes. Like, I see his smile, his smile's like he's just kinda got like a a punchable face.
SPEAKER_04Yes, like he's kinda like, uh, uh.
SPEAKER_02But uh these are these are the these are the qualifications that we judge.
SPEAKER_05No status. What's his face like? His face is like, uh I mean that's how we judge it. We saw we saw Mike talking, we were like, I don't need to see him play, get him on the team.
SPEAKER_02Get him on the team, get him on the team, but make him serve Kalbasa.
SPEAKER_05But I I Freddie Freeman's low down because the two I hate way more are Will Smith. Because that's just I feel like that's lame. If you're a catcher and you're skinny, get out of here. That's lame. Um and he also has a punchable face. Um and Max Muncie. I hate Max Muncie.
SPEAKER_02I knew you knew, I knew you hated Max Muncie.
SPEAKER_05So Freddie Freeman is like the least bad of those three. I still don't like him, but Dave Roberts is by far the worst. Why Dave Roberts? I don't like his vibes. I my strong hatred is based solely off of vibes. Whoa! Um and that's that's the way it is. I just you know what I love?
SPEAKER_02I love that every um we live in LA, so we get to see the sort of uh the intense um support that this team has. But I love I'm sure there's quite a few, but I but I love um being in town and wherever you go, if you're in a restaurant or bar in this game playing, how much internal hatred there is for Dave Roberts. No, I mean it's just like within within the fans, and it's not a hatred. I would just be like, it's just like the common thing that if it's your team, people are just always going like, alright, it's time to get rid of him. He's too old, you know, whatever. Which is what I heard that Alex Cora might be coming to the divers.
SPEAKER_05I don't even think they could do that though.
SPEAKER_02Why not? I mean, if Dave is Dave is like trying to find a reason to retire.
SPEAKER_05I don't I don't I think they give Dave at least another year. Cause like if you keep winning that much.
SPEAKER_02I think I think I think all they have to do is not win the World Series this year.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, for sure. If they like underperform, I think there's a very real world because like that's their bar is so high. And Alex Korra's kind of already there with Mookie. It's my new favorite way to say it. Mucky bets. Mucky, I feel like they they've already got that connection, and like Alex Korra, I feel like is known for being really good with his players, which is kinda what I think the Dodgers need from a manager no matter what, because they're very much like a vibes clubhouse. Um, which going back, going back to it, Dalton rushing, killing the vibes. He to be fair, he played like eight games and he hit like seven home runs. Jesus. Yeah, but in the course of those games, he uh first thing he did was when they were playing the Giants. This is when people were like, oh my god, the Giants Dodgers rivalry is coming back. They were playing the Giants, and there was a play where Zhung Hu Lee, grandson of the wind, my goat, uh he was he was running, he was trying to make like a risky play, and he was out on it because he was running to home. Yeah. But Dalton Russian got the ball and kind of like whacked him with it. And instead of being like, hey, are you okay? He stood up and he was walking away, and somebody in the dugout for the Dodge was like, I think you might have hurt him. And he was like, he looked back and he was like, fuck him. And then people were people were upset about that, and then afterwards he said, like, no, I didn't say that, and then you said he did. Dave Roberts in the interview was like, Yeah, he shouldn't have said that. So that was bad. And then right after, like the game after, Logan Webb was pitching and he does not like hit people. That's like not his thing. Like he's he's a good control guy. He squarely, like, he throws right at Dalton Rushing and like slams him on the back. And then as Dalton Rushing's going away, it's like everybody's like, eh, we're not gonna have a fight over this. Like, we knew that would happen. Like, like he kind of deserves it. He deserves it. Nobody nobody was with that. And then Dalton Rushing was like gonna be out on a double play ball from first, and he decided he did the thing. Like, this was the funniest thing, actually. One of the I believe the Giants broadcasters, they were talking to him about it. He was like, because he like used to play in like the 80s, and they were like, Yeah, what would you have done in that situation? He was like, Yeah, if I if I get hit with the ball, I'm gonna take my base, and I'm probably gonna try to like ram into the second baseman and do as much damage as possible. Five seconds later, Dalton Rushing comes barreling through. The second baseman, by the way, hits the plate and takes like three steps away from the plate. Dalton Rushing doesn't go for the plate, goes straight for him and like barrels into his.
SPEAKER_02Oh, like basically takes the uh like the outside of the route.
SPEAKER_05It was like it was like he was trying to do what Chase Udley did. Yeah. Like he wasn't very successful because it was kind of like a weak thing, but he was fully going for the second baseman, which is like again, not good vibes.
SPEAKER_00No, also interference if if if it impedes the the out.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we don't we don't like that. We don't like that at all. It was fine, like the game kept going. And then this was a funny one, this isn't as bad. When they were playing the Rockies, the Rockies were hitting like a lot of first pitches really well, and after the game, he was like, Yeah, something really fishy is going on with them. Like he was implying that the Rockies were cheating because they won the game. Um, because the Rockies could never win a game.
SPEAKER_02Uh and then I feel like I've never heard of this guy, and he's just come out of nowhere.
SPEAKER_05No, these past few weeks, he's been like doing insane stuff. And then the game after this is what I love. Exactly. The game after the Rockies, their like on-based celebration was like a throwing a fishing rod to make fun of him. Because they were doing something fishy. But this is the one that I'm the most upset about. Uh there was a pitch that got away, they were playing the Cubs, and there was a pitch that got a little bit away from him. And as he was getting it, the guy on first stole second. And he was a he was a little bit bigger of a guy. And Dalton Rushing stood up, mask off, and he said he called him a fat fuck.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I did see that. I saw that. Yeah, and then After because he missed he like he like he actually stole the base on him. And he didn't get him, and he just was like, I'm just like, what who is it? I stopped.
SPEAKER_05It's crazy because like I was it's you know it happened too because like he could deny it, but like right after the guy who was on like who's batting Nico Horner afterwards, he was like he was like, Yeah, I'm upset at myself that I didn't do something about that. Like I I should have I should have gotten upset. I should have started a fight there. Which is like I yeah, you should have. I'm like it's crazy. It's been a crazy uh like two weeks for Dalton Rushing. Um but I'm gonna have to look that guy up. He's like young. I think this is like his first time. I think he's a rookie.
SPEAKER_02Uh he's uh he's definitely going by a different playbook.
SPEAKER_00He's going by the old playbook.
SPEAKER_01I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Well, to this sort of uh breakout star in the Hollywood team that is the Dodgers. Um let's let's uh take a left turn.
SPEAKER_05Hope they don't. So he doesn't get a ring. He's one of them. He might get traded before. Uh I don't know. To the Mets, how long not even. How long do you have to be on a team to get a ring for the season?
SPEAKER_02I I don't know. You can be on on the team like the week before. Like the like the day before they win the World Series. Like you don't have to, like, for real. I mean you if you're on the traded?
SPEAKER_05You still get the ring if you get like say they trade Dolphin?
SPEAKER_02No. You have to be on the actual uh World Series.
SPEAKER_05Like Oh, you have to be on like the postseason roster. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Just trade them as Actually, I'm assuming that, but uh somebody. That would make sense. That would make sense. I think that you have to have to be like part of that. You know what I mean? Like if you were traded before for any reason, especially if it was your fault, you don't get a ring. Um but let's talk let's talk uh let's talk movies for a second.
Movies, Cyberpunk, And Goodbyes
SPEAKER_02Um anything worthwhile this week? Did we see uh I haven't been to the movies in a month, and it's like it's a disgrace.
SPEAKER_05Did we talk about the drama?
SPEAKER_02No, we didn't.
SPEAKER_05I really like the drama. I think it might be out of theaters now, but like I really loved the drama. What did you love the line? I mean, to be fair. The drama. I mean, honestly, I think the drama might have been the weakest part of the movie. Uh, but I really loved it. I'm trying not to spoil it because it's like it is like a big reveal kind of movie, but uh I was inclined to like it because it was aesthetically pleasing. And it also had Robert Pattinson and Zendaya, and that's kind of like a perfect recipe for me to watch a movie and enjoy it. Um but it was just like it was good. It subverted the expectations I was I was there the whole movie. I love when a movie can keep me present because at this right now, like, I there've been times in my life where I've been able to just sit down and watch a movie fully that hasn't been good and not get like sidetracked about it. Yeah. Distracted. But like some sometimes a lot of movies will just like auto-check my phone like once if I'm in the theater to see what time it is, see what it ends. I didn't have to for this movie. I thought it was I thought it was really entertaining. It was really uncomfortable to watch. Which is I think every every so often you should watch like a really good, uncomfortable movie. Like like the chair company guy. What's this? Like you like Tim Robinson. Yeah, sometimes you just have to watch something where you're like a little like makes you a little screamish. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Oh, and you're gonna like this one. Last night I didn't finish it because I've been sleeping terrible. Different story. Two nights ago. I was in bed, no shirt, spider landed on my chest, inches away from my face. Big one. And I panicked and I like freaked out and I threw everything everywhere. So I don't know where he went, and then I slept on the couch. That was only two days ago, so I don't know where he is. I did like do a full deep clean of my room, but he could still be somewhere.
SPEAKER_02The spider is petrified wherever he is. No, for sure.
SPEAKER_05I feel bad for him, but like do not he didn't need to he fell on me. It's not like he like low slowly crept down. He like it made a noise. I heard him. And that was awful.
SPEAKER_02It's like he's doing the the Tom Cruise Mission Impossible thing. And the rope snapped.
SPEAKER_05Exactly. His rope snapped. And I live in like a den of spiders, so it's terrifying. But so I really got terrible sleep. Den of spiders. So I slept really terrible like two nights ago, and so this night I was like really like I fell asleep really fast. But I started watching I might have finished, but I was like in a half-awake trance, so I didn't see it. Ghost in the Shell. Which I figured you would have preached.
SPEAKER_02Oh, the actual old school anime.
SPEAKER_05Old school. Yes. Because I watch- I watch it on the old TV that I got. I'm reserving that for baseball games and old anime.
SPEAKER_02That is one of the best of all time. I love Cyberpunk! I love Cyberpunk! I just I love I what I love even more so is the sort of like the 80s and early 90s idea of Cyberpunk.
SPEAKER_05No, that that is Cyberpunk. That's my Cyberpunk is so inherently 80s, and that's part of the reason it's awesome.
SPEAKER_02I just I love that, and that movie is like the whole um It's just it's one of the best. It's one of the best.
SPEAKER_05I love it. I love it a lot.
SPEAKER_02I need to revisit that.
SPEAKER_05I'm I'm I'm trying to like I'm gonna try to ingrain as much of how good it is in my head, because I'm probably gonna watch the newer one shortly after.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean that's I'll tell you, I'll I'll save you some time.
SPEAKER_05Don't the people were not fans of that one.
SPEAKER_02Uh but here's the thing, I love that original movie so much that the new one is like this garbage ahead so the new one, um didn't bother me. Like it didn't bother me. Like it wasn't like I like I knew it couldn't it could never it's like they've been trying to make Akira forever.
SPEAKER_05But you can't like because part of the the perfectness of those things is like the fact that they were drawn. Yeah, it's beautifully done. It's like trying to make it's like it's like video gimming.
SPEAKER_02It's like you're wearing the scot Pokemon Rest of the World feature. To me, that's the best live anime movie I've ever seen in my life. It's Scott Pokemon.
SPEAKER_05It's like that's I think that's even more video gaming, but like I don't believe it.
SPEAKER_02It's like it's like there's you know, there are very few movies that that actually um have that energy and the sort of the kineticness of it.
SPEAKER_05I think it might be impossible to make a serious take on like an anime vibe live action because like Scott Pilgrim works because it's like funny about it. But like I'm trying to think. Every time they try to do a serious interpretation of like a live-action anime, it always comes out seeming dumb. So that's why Scott Pilgrim worked.
SPEAKER_02No, it's like but then there are movies that are like, you know, that to me that are uh that are already inherently part of that world. That kind of uh you know, I always think of Blade Runner. Oh Blade Runner was very good. But Blade Runner was kind of anime cyber fun before it was like a like a real thing. So it's like it's part of it's part of the the heart of what that is. You know, like it was already kind of like the sort of like the Japanese culture, the the neon.
SPEAKER_05The fun thing is I think in my head I associate Blade Runner as like when I think of Cyberpunk, Cyberpunk is like such a Japanese genre. Cause it c but it like it kinda got overtaken because originally I think it was like some American dude who like started off that genre, but then it like it kind of I think Japan was such a technology-based society before America was, so that kind of that's why it took off so well. Yeah, yeah. But when I think about American cyberpunk, Blade Runner is like exactly what I think of, like. Cause like the genre itself is so Japanese that when I see Blade Runner, I'm like, if it was an American genre, it would be like this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but the thing this is but this is what I was gonna get at, is that a lot of the stories and a lot of the vibe, not the vibe necessarily, but the the sort of uh the journeys of these characters. Oh no, visually, yeah, yeah. But but what I'm saying is that the you know, a lot of anime stuff to me just feels like old westerns. You know, they just feel like old the old lore movies. It's always like the the outsider and you know getting caught into something that they don't want to be caught into, or you know, they're I mean like specifically cyberpunk every single time.
SPEAKER_05Cyberpunk is a western job.
SPEAKER_02Like it is It completely is, but said in the future and whatever, and that to me, it's like no other movie has done that more than Blade Burner. And then on top of it, you have the sort of like the technical aspect of it, which is always a big part of Cyberpunk.
SPEAKER_05I mean it is it's in the name.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05But it's like it's it's the it's the I think we're describing the exact two parts of the name.
SPEAKER_02But what I'm saying is that like the uh you know uh uh I can't remember the uh Oh my god, what's the guy's name? The guy who wrote the the the movie the one who was based on. He also did he's one of my favorite writers of all time. Uh I should have slept last night. Oh, Philip Philip K. Rock, Philip K. Dick. Philip K. Dick. Oh! That guy! That guy, so that guy, to me, was kind of like a a precursor.
SPEAKER_05Wait, was he the Scanner Darkly?
SPEAKER_02Scanner Darkly.
SPEAKER_05That feels so like That's the progression. That feels like the progression. It's like Scanner Darkly to Cyberpunk. Blade Runner is right in the middle of that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and he wrote all that. That makes so much sense. But all that stuff also to me it's like that. It's inspired that sort of that genre of of uh you know the cyberpunk anime, because then also that's also a sort of like the Japanese culture, like old school uh other stuff.
SPEAKER_05But um Cyberpunk's gotta be my favorite genre, like, of all time though. I don't think I've seen a Cyberpunk thing and been unhappy about it.
SPEAKER_02You know what we need to watch? Is uh there's uh a uh piano reef movie that is completely cheesy, but it was like uh No, this one in particular was was kind of like this is pre-matrix. And it was I think it was called oh it was either called a Johnny mnemonic.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I think I've heard of that.
SPEAKER_02And it but it's all it was set in that it's set in in uh Japan and in uh like it's part of a video game and it's like a weird Oh yeah, yeah, I've definitely heard of this one.
SPEAKER_05Look at that guy.
SPEAKER_02I have to watch that ASAP because I remember watching it when it came out and thinking, wow, this is just a load of like craziness. This is uh not good. Um, but but you know, again, going back close to the show, I'm not a bad pig. I need to uh I need to get on the movies. But we should say goodbye and wish our um family of Mets fans some patience and some love.
SPEAKER_05You know what I found out? What did you find? Uh we were babysitting Pancake, who's uh like, who's a dog that I've babysat in the past. The reason we were babysitting her is because uh the like the husband of the family. Julia's brother. I think I think it is. I have no idea. Exactly. I didn't know that. The only reason we were babysitting was because he decided to go down to Anaheim to watch the game. And they decided to make it like a family thing to go down to Anaheim because the Mets were in town. Yeah. I just think that like just thinking, speaking of Mets family, they're everywhere! They actually are here. There's so many Mets fans here.
SPEAKER_02Ah, that's crazy. Well, hopefully, uh hopefully, we will definitely get to all of you. Thank you so much for being a part of this sadboys Met Club. Find us online, sadboysmetchclub.com, but merch. Check some stuff out. Like, subscribe, hit the bell, comment, word, share with people, and keep hope alive. Let's go mix.
SPEAKER_05There's always today. You gotta believe.